Last week I transformed a horrible looking writing desk in Part 2 of my Road-Rescue Series. Once things were sanded down with both 80 grit and 200 grit sandpaper (with the grain of the wood) it was time to wipe everything down with a moist rag once again, this time to remove all that sanding dust. Substrate: The surface – for large surfaces, often a dimensionally stable material such as plywood, MDF or particleboard – to which veneer is glued. In any event that has to done first or you are wasting your time trying to patch and touch up the veneer.
Finally, I noticed that the actual drawer was a pretty maple and I thought that removing all of the veneer should be simple. If you don’t know how old the cabinets and the veneer are, try the heated method used on older veneers first, because it’s easier to do. First: I have used denatured alcohol to remove the shellac on the table surfaces, but any shellac it leaves behind appears white. Finally, that tiny amount of veneer poking out will eventually get caught on everything that dares brush by it! I am going spray the guitar white and it is not very think so I want to remove the veneer on the back completely.
Hi I have been wondering for a long time how to remove water stains from my dining table, very old stains.. tried a few things but this morning I found your site and tried the iron over a cotton t-shirt…I have no words to describe it its amazing! Veneer techniques woodweb’ knowledge base, Veneer techniques at woodweb’s knowledge base. Phil, while I use hide glue exclusively for veneer work, your suggestion sounds very interesting and I may try your method on an old piece and see if it can be removed reasonably.
One customer has offered that she has had consistent success removing paint from metal by dipping the painted metal in boiling water. I’ve tested the veneer softener on some thicker veneers and had occasional success. The best option is to apply a cheaper paper backed veneer to the back side of the panel with the same adhesive and bonding method that you used on the face sides.
Water damage to the wood takes one of several forms: black marks, raised grain, peeled or lifted veneer, warpage, splits, joint or glue failure, and water logging. I never used anything but clean water to wash off the bleach, and never had a reaction. My dining room table was my wife’s grandfather’s table when he was our age, so it is very nice and very old, and I ruined it a year and a half ago with an iron. I have a table with drop down leafs that is missing one corner of the wood on the main middle piece.
I bought a great used round pedestal table with the intent of refinishing it. It weighed a ton and the guy I bought it from said it had originally cost $2000…..so Iassumed it was solid wood. I’ve tackled dark heat stains in veneer far more severe than the ones pictured without affecting the timbre (I couldn’t resist) of the piece. While cleaning my hardwood dining room table and chairs, I had my small bucket of water sitting on the table. This will allow the wood cells to shrink and expand each season without stressing the entire width of the veneer.
I won an old table at an auction that my boyfriend decided he wanted to make it his project. I’ve seen worse surfaces that have been restored back to life and to me, this table looks like a great candidate. I can’t count the number of jobs where I have had to go out and repair the finish 6 months later where someone used 2 part wood bleach and then it leaches out of the joints or just makes the finish weak where it wasn’t really neutralized and destroyed the acid catalyst in the finish. I purchased a nifty little side table at an estate sale that has a great style but has a laminate top.
When I turned the settiing to high, it took less than 30 seconds to remove the stains! Minwax isn’t our favorite (we prefer Rustoleum stains) so we’re not familiar with the Polyshades. I planned to use Annie Sloan’s chalk paint on it, so no preparation involved, but the wood veneer on the top of the dresser needed some attention. When I removed the tablecloth after dinner the outline and plus of her plate was on the table.
Pour half a litre of warm water into a non-ferrous container, and then begin adding oxalic acid crystals (the hardware store should have this stuff, as it also used to remove iron stains) until no more will dissolve—a saturated solution. When you’re done scrubbing with the soapy water, rinse the surface with a wrung-out sponge and clear water. There were a few nicks in the buffet doors and they were easily filled with wood filler.
If the veneer is damaged or has chipped off in some places, but isn’t loose and flaky… you can either fill it with wood-putty and sand it smooth, OR you can embrace the character and prime and paint right over it. But as you can see on this thread, the tip has worked on hundreds of pieces of wood furniture. I did the iron too, but not sure what role that played-I think it helped the wax penetrate the wood. Going to sand the finish off the rest of the veneer on the outside and try to stain the inside to match.
Before basics: dealing veneer issues, In my line of work, i constantly deal with veneer issues. If you tilt the blade a little, the curved center section will come closer to the surface to allow for removing really thin layers of paint. There really is no easy way to remove veneer that has been applied with common veneer adhesives. I’ve been using the same veneer saw for several years and I’ve found a few ways to maximize the life of the blade. As long as the tape is not super-saturated, most of the tape adhesive will stay on the tape and not on the veneer. Okay, i tried the universty of florida’s idea on how to deal with white stains on furniture, found at it is a PDF file.
Since breather mesh will allow the bag to pull onto the sides of the substrate, it’s best to cut the veneer as close to the final size as possible. Because the laminate still looks new, I was thinking I would have to paint the wood portion and leave the laminate. Once you’ve badly gouged a solid wood top like this your only option is wood putty and paint.
Removing old wood veneer on most antique furniture to dry well before sanding.. How to paint laminate furniture – makely – I can’t tell you how many times i’ve googled the following search terms: painting laminate furniture” how do i paint laminate?” can i paint laminate?”. Cross-grain sanding scratches aren’t very visible under a clear finish, but they show up very clearly under a stain.
Wear eye protection – you are scraping wood and don’t want any to hit you in the face or eye. I have also leveled off veneer bubbles on cathedral cabinets placing a damp face cloth on the bubble and going over with a steam iron till it lays flat. You can accomplish this by cutting out a section of veneer using a razor blade and a square. By the way, unless it was a total wreck, you removed any value it may have had along with the veneer.exactly.
Other than using a stationary sanding machine or a belt sander, which will take a good deal of practice to learn to control, there are three methods of sanding wood: with just your hand backing the sandpaper, with a flat block backing the sandpaper and with a vibrator or random-orbit sander. Keep checking the stain every few minutes, and when it has faded away, remove the heat. The 3 steps that I listed are needed anyway, whenever you’re going to bleach the wood.
To remove milky white water marks you need to pull the fresh moisture out of the finish as soon as possible, and realize that you still have to fill or eliminate the miniscule fractures. Also consider using a waterless veneer tape such as the one offered at This type of veneer tape does not leave any residue on the veneer face. Dark stains are the result of water penetrating the finish and actually making it to the wood itself.
So Abbey and I thought we would give a tutorial this week while working on this piece on the easiest route to removing laminate that we know. Sometimes it’s very difficult and chippy removing veneer, and you never know what surface you’re going to be left with once it’s removed. This includes removing all composite wood from contact with heaters, kitchen stoves, direct sunlight, etc.