If you are buying or selling second hand, Preloved offers a great alternative to the hassle and expense of auction sites. The current crop of Stanley bench planes perform like total sh!t compared to the originals. A smooth plane ranges from 6½ to 10½ inches long, and is used for the final finishing on wood. So, when you are making a decision which brand to choose, you really need to be thinking about the style of plane you will enjoy using. Goodguy writes: To Tkarlman… I agree, a real review should include the information you asked for: squareness, type of steel both in the blade and in the body, and of course, how well the plane performs.
But the minute my kid enters college, I’m blowing his inheritance or his mother’s retirement fund on some LNs & Veritas planes. Most metal bench planes, and some larger wooden ones, are designed with a rear handle known as a tote. This was not a big hollow just a couple of thou 1000th of an inch but a plane shaving can easily and regularly be less than a couple of thou. It is always a LN plane (that I specify of course!) Not only are they trouble free and well manufactured tools; they are also a joy to use and each one is special because it came from my wife. If other manufacturers have a plane that matches the Stanley number 4 then I would use it.
Chris assumed (and wrote) that the Clifton sole was made from a simple ‘ brittle ‘ grey iron, like Stanleys, based on the information that it wasn’t the superior ‘ductile’ iron of premium planes from Lie-Nielsen and Veritas. Part of this tree was sawn into 4 foot 1 by 8s. I use those boards in the tests. Come out to a Lie-Nielsen Hand Tool Event and test this plane first-hand, as well as see what else might be missing from your shop. Featuring A2 steel for excellent edge retention and a cast iron base for accuracy, STANLEY low angle block and bench plane provide comfort and control.
These planes are of excellent quality, but to purchase them would be at least double the outlay of a pre-loved Stanley equivalent. I still stand by my impressions at the time, but I always meant to update the review as Clifton introduced new models. Veritas is offering a new concept in plane design, customized to fit the work you do and the way you do it. As a compromise, a Clifton iron was used in the #4 ½. This has the same dimensions as the LN iron, but is hand forged HCS rather than A2. The upgraded LN chipbreaker was also used.
The plane is ready for use neat from the box though many woodworkers will clifton plane favour to add their possess personal honing have-to doe with to the cutting edge. Other Bench planes: planes like the #5 or #4 might be added as identified needs arise during the development of your craftsmanship. Also for those of you squawking about the prices of a good plane consider this, a hundred years ago a quality hand plane sold for about a month’s wage. There is also a 90-degree iron available, which puts this plane into scraping territory.
For this reason, the thick, laminated irons fitted to wooden jack and similar bench planes are frequently found to be ground to about 12-1/2deg. I don’t know this but I suspect there is a significant variability in these planes (Wood River in the USA). This plane has an adjustable mouth which is a great added feature for flexibility for your projects.
An additional set of 16 cutters is available (2 sash, 6 fluting and 8 reeding, supplied in a plastic wallet). For what it’s worth, my opinion is that Philip should be pricing his planes at the same level as Karl Holtey’s. The router plane , which cleans up the bottom of recesses such as shallow mortises, grooves, and dadoes (housings). Below you’ll see a rabbet plane with a straight iron (on top) and a rabbet plane with a skewed iron (on bottom).
Without question I am of the opinion that at around $A50.00 plus half an afternoon’s work you end up with a quality plane with character – some of my earlier restorations are type 9’s and they still perform very well. A miter plane (with a 35-degree blade angle) and a toothing plane (with a vertical iron) are both designed to work on woods with difficult grains. Remember, it is virtually impossible to successfully repair a cracked plane body.
We don’t ask tool makers to send us tools for review, we tend to review tools that students have bought and paid good money for. Ive got a question about which type of plane would be better for me. I own a no3 old bailey plane , no 4 lie nielsen with a 50degree frog , and a bailey no 6 and some blockplanes by stanley. The most widely used plane is the jack plane, which is 14 to 16 inches long, shaves off the most amount of wood in the smallest amount of time, and is used for roughing out work in the early stages.
Since the sides of the iron must project very slightly beyond the sides of the plane, there is absolutely no scope for lateral adjustment to prevent the plane cutting more heavily on one side than the other. Hi all, I’m sorry to join the debate so late & I doubt I have anything to contribute that no one else hasn’t already, but having just qualified as a bench joiner in London as part of a two year fine woodwork diploma, acquiring tools that will last on in to my career is a hot topic for me. In 1869, L. & C.H. DeForest even advertised a $1,000 ivory handled plow plane with 22-karat gold nuts, washers, and arm tips.
Planing wood along its side grain should result in thin shavings rising above the surface of the wood as the edge of the plane iron is pushed forward, leaving a smooth surface, but sometimes splintering occurs. I must say though that the Stanley or more accurately the Bailey-pattern 6, 7 and 8 planes are no longer what I would consider high priority planes and I might even say are actually more non-essential in today’s world of working wood. Those include the vintage Stanley No. 289 Moving fillister plane and the modern Veritas moving fillister plane (called the Skew Rabbet Plane). Each plane is numbered progressively as made, along with the year in which it is made.
The front knob is a bit fatter and squatter than the later Bailey and Bedrock designs but anyone who has an early pattern low-knob plane will find the Marcou’s set-up quite familiar. The rabbet plane , also known as a rebate or openside plane, which cuts rabbets (rebates) i.e. shoulders, or steps. So if we assume the wage was around 10.00 a month and we saw inflation over the past 100 years at 3% that 10.00 hand plane in 1909 would cost about $200 in 2009. For the #4 ½ the iron would receive a 15° backbevel when time came to plane at 60°.
I believe these planes have been sold under different names and supplied in the U.S I dont know if their quality control has improved since they appeared but they are great planes now. The scraping planing action desired would be most usefully achieved with a different plane. Clifton planes are manufactured in traditional style to exacting standards at their factory in Sheffield. Just something to keep in mind, as I am sure that some folks will offer/buy an aftermarket blades for these planes as well.
In Summer School I glued up my chest half day after my fastest students, but was able to catch up, by the afternoon, even allowing for glue to set up, as my planes were that much better at final finish. Ive read that Lie-Neilsen on the other hand are well made and all hand finished to ultra fine tolerences im guessing thats why there pricer than clifton. I didn’t go and check this plane out as I have a walnut table in my studio being polished.